Just Pick Up the Phone| Episode 3 | Season 5
In this episode, Pastor John Carter joins Pastor Decarto Draper of Tucker Missionary Baptist Church for a timely and inspiring conversation about cultivating genuine relationships among pastors and churches in the same community. With honesty and humility, they discuss the importance of racial reconciliation, trust-building, and shared mission as vital components of kingdom leadership.
Key Highlights:
Bridging Divides Through Relationship: Pastor John and Pastor Decarto share their journey of friendship and collaboration as pastors from different racial and denominational backgrounds—reminding us that unity starts with intentional connection, not convenience.
From Competition to Collaboration: They address how a business-like mindset in church culture can often create competition instead of cooperation, and how kingdom-minded leadership requires focusing on community impact over comparison.
The Power of Intentionality: Pastor Draper emphasizes that “if there is no intentionality, there is no authenticity.” Building bridges across cultural and denominational lines requires pastors to take the first step—often as simple as a phone call or a shared cup of coffee.
Leading Churches Toward Kingdom Unity: Both pastors discuss practical ways to model unity within their congregations, highlighting that churches often reflect the behavior of their leaders. When pastors connect, communities heal.
Transitioning from Church-Building to Kingdom-Building: The conversation closes with a call for pastors to shift their focus from personal platforms to collective purpose—working together to see their cities transformed by the Gospel.
This episode serves as a reminder that the Kingdom of God advances not through isolation, but through collaboration.
Key Scriptures
Galatians 3:26–29
Isaiah 43:19
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